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Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2008 2:46 pm Post subject: The 100 Worst Actors and Directors of All Time!
I am a writer and film buff that is new to this group. I wanted to introduce myself and would like to start a discussion on who you think is the worst actor and director of all time. I see a lot of discussions on these boards about what is the best/worst movie(s) of all time, but I have a particular interest in those who have contributed to the most ghastly (yet side splittingly funny) movies on a consistent basis.
I am so interested I even wrote a book on the subject. Cheesy, Sleazy Mixed-Up Astro-Zombies: The 100 Worst Actors and Directors of All Time (2008 Publish America) is a chronicle of the lowest of the low in the motion picture industry. I would like to see how my rankings match up with other bad movie lovers.
Joined: Jun 05, 2004 Posts: 521 Location: Boise, Idaho
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 3:06 am Post subject:
Hey man, nice to have you here.
I can think of one right off the top of my head. Larry Buchanan. He was responsible for such turds as In the Year 2889 and Mars Needs Women.
Larry Cohen is another one. He made Q: The Winged Serpent.
It's 3am and those two are ones that popped into my head. If I think of any more I'll pop back and add them. _________________ Duane L. Martin Webmaster - B-Movie Central Editor / Webmaster / Staff Writer - Rogue Cinema
Joined: Jun 05, 2004 Posts: 521 Location: Boise, Idaho
Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 7:02 am Post subject:
Oh man, Buchanan's films are just painful to watch. They're so freakin' boring!
Q was just the kind of general all around crappy that makes you want to hunt down the director and smack him around to make him pay for the hour and a half you just lost out of your life.
Funny thing is, I actually knew someone who liked that turd of a movie!
I wonder if it has something to do with the name Larry? Coincidence? I don't know... _________________ Duane L. Martin Webmaster - B-Movie Central Editor / Webmaster / Staff Writer - Rogue Cinema
Joined: Jun 06, 2004 Posts: 131 Location: Louisiana, US
Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2008 10:28 am Post subject:
Greydon Clark is a hero of mine amongst terrible directors. Flicks like The Bad Bunch, Final Justice, Black Shampoo & Satan's Cheerleaders should definitely cement his legacy among b-movie fans _________________ Josh Samford
Webmaster - Varied Celluloid
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"I've thought about things that Kings and Queens cannot spell." - Gary Busey
It took me a while to find a topic to post ( or reply to) here. On a board called a "rogue" cinema, even what is "bad" can be "good" to someone...So why piss on someone who is trying to make movies? Please leave this to "rotten tomatoes" they made millions from it. My suggestion is : yes criticize but do not make any "worst lists" but maybe "most unusual" lists.
There are a lot of producers here ( and directors) even (the mods I think) who are making movies ( or at least creative in many ways) so why be like everybody else:" If you know how you do, if you don't you criticize" and make it all more positive.
... and if I had to start the worst list?
Sophie Coppola for the Director pissing away millions and making crap
as for the actors I do not have any they all try their best
I tend to agree with bakerboy, in the sense that I try to save my derision for mainstream Hollywood crap and support the indie directors if they're at least trying to do something different.
Larry Cohen is a controversial one. I haven't decided if he's a "bad" director per se, but he has a large cult following and several serious critical overviews have been written about his work. I suggest you watch his early film Bone with Yaphet Kotto. It's very bizarre, and I didn't know what to make of it. I like the fact that his films are bewildering to some degree.
To me the worst directors are the ones doing slick remakes of 70s horror movies (with the exceptions being recent versions of Dawn of the Dead and Hills Have Eyes 1, which were ok). That kind of soulless cinematic vampirism is offensive to me.
Joined: Jun 06, 2004 Posts: 131 Location: Louisiana, US
Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 10:56 am Post subject:
bakerboy wrote:
It took me a while to find a topic to post ( or reply to) here. On a board called a "rogue" cinema, even what is "bad" can be "good" to someone...So why piss on someone who is trying to make movies? Please leave this to "rotten tomatoes" they made millions from it. My suggestion is : yes criticize but do not make any "worst lists" but maybe "most unusual" lists.
There are a lot of producers here ( and directors) even (the mods I think) who are making movies ( or at least creative in many ways) so why be like everybody else:" If you know how you do, if you don't you criticize" and make it all more positive.
... and if I had to start the worst list?
Sophie Coppola for the Director pissing away millions and making crap
as for the actors I do not have any they all try their best
I'm of the opinion that in most terms there really is no "wrong" way to make a film if you come to think about it. Artistic expression is artistic expression - no matter what the means. However, Rogue Cinema did not invent the rules nor did they invent the terms. Get what I'm saying?
I don't think anyone becomes a b-movie addict by feeling hatred for films with less than accomplished acting or far from solid direction. In the world of drive-in cheapies, cheaply made monster movies, exploitation and violent action capers - being considered "the worst" at something almost carries the same notoriety as being the best. I'm sure that if it were up to us, filmmakers such as Greydon Clark would be making movies around the clock and given much larger budgets - because I love to see his strange little creations.
However, you can't sit through a flick like Blackenstein and then afterward say "you know, even though they showed that same 180 second sequence with that character walking away from the screen three times to milk it for a feature film length - I'm not going to say it was bad or anything". Unfortunately sometimes a spade is a spade, and no matter how unintentionally funny it may be you can't in good conciousness let readers waste their time like you unfortunately were duped into doing.
That doesn't mean I'm the type to write scathing reviews. I've been contributing for RC for... how many years have we been doing this? Four? Five? Not sure, but I've missed maybe one issue in that time and to my knowledge I don't think I have written one negative review for an independent submission yet. Some of them had dodgy acting, some of them were slightly weak in terms of plot development - but you know what, I recognized how hard they tried and put myself in the position of understanding where their films were coming from. I try my best to be that way with every film I watch and every review I write. Not everyone has a massive budget, not everyone has dozens of years worth of experience - but yes, there is a difference between someone trying their best and someone looking to make a paycheck. In the instances of the latter, I can understand another reviewer being slightly more aggressive than I would be. I also understand the writers who do their best to entertain. The Night of the Creeps review site is legendary in my opinion, and sometimes they would tear into flicks but they were always entertaining to such a degree that who could really be offended.
Anyway, I understand where you are coming from, but I just feel there's no need to judge Rogue Cinema based on a thread on the forum. We are all film lovers, of all sorts and all varietys. _________________ Josh Samford
Webmaster - Varied Celluloid
Staff Writer - Rogue Cinema
"I've thought about things that Kings and Queens cannot spell." - Gary Busey
Joined: Jun 06, 2004 Posts: 131 Location: Louisiana, US
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 8:36 pm Post subject:
roarvis wrote:
Holy crap, I remember the Night of the Creeps site. That was awesome!
http://zombie.dreamhost.com/
It really is one of the best review sites out there. Not the best design, but the reviews were always funny. I even sent them an e-mail almost a year ago just to tell them how much I liked the site and stuff. Unfortunately I never heard back, but hopefully they're still writing somewhere about something. _________________ Josh Samford
Webmaster - Varied Celluloid
Staff Writer - Rogue Cinema
"I've thought about things that Kings and Queens cannot spell." - Gary Busey
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